Radeon drivers install on karmic (fglrx fo not works)

[Yellow Pasque]

I went to ATI and downloaded:
ati-driver-installer-9-3-x86.x86_64.run

That driver is too old to use with Karmic, and newer ones don't support your GPU. Make sure you purge any traces of old ATI drivers and reinstall the default opne-source drivers: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troublesho...from%20scratch

[tinman6700]

that was the last one that I tried, and my screen came out so garbled that I just said screw it, and am now reloading my OS from scratch, while I am on here with a live session.
I'm going nuts, all of this worked fine in ultimate 1.4, just went back to windows because I couldnt get full function out of my sound card (creative audigy 2 ZS platinum with the external box and IR remote) I wanted to give ubuntu a second go round, so I downloaded the newest Ultimate, 2.3 (I believe this is based on 9.4) I haven't tried messing with the sound yet, because if I screw that up, I can most likely fix it without a reboot, but I know I'll be mad if I get that working, and have to reinstall because of video

[lyn james]

Upgraded to Karmic today and xorg can'r use my radeon 4350 graphics card.
ssh'd in and changed xorg.conf to use vesa and this works.

Have tried installing the ati driver (ati-driver-installer-9-11-x86.x86_64.run). This is the driver the ati web site points you to.
Have also tried letting ubuntu install the ati/amd proprietary fglrx graphics driver from 'hardware drivers'.
Neither works.

I've removed all the nvidia packages I could find.

Here's the log when fglrx was in xorg.conf:

Running with the vesa driver is OK for most things & I don't care than compiz doesn't work, but I use qemu/kvm and this screws the entire display up.
Anyone have any ideas, please?

X.Org X Server 1.6.4
Release Date: 2009-9-27
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.24-23-server x86_64 Ubuntu
Current Operating System: Linux lyn-desktop 2.6.31-15-generic #50-Ubuntu SMP Tue Nov 10 14:53:52 UTC
2009 x86_64
Kernel command line: root=UUID=ce4ead01-7b11-4dec-8d0e-5013e325112b ro quiet splash
Build Date: 26 October 2009 05:19:56PM
xorg-server 2:1.6.4-2ubuntu4 (buildd@)
Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
to make sure that you have the latest version.
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Fri Nov 27 19:24:59 2009
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
(==) ServerLayout "aticonfig Layout"
(**) |-->Screen "Default Screen" (0)
(**) | |-->Monitor "Configured Monitor"
(**) | |-->Device "Configured Video Device"
(==) Automatically adding devices
(==) Automatically enabling devices
(WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic" does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(==) FontPath set to:
/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc,
/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled,
/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled,
/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1,
/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi,
/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi,
/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType,
built-ins
(==) ModulePath set to "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
(II) Cannot locate a core pointer device.
(II) Cannot locate a core keyboard device.
(II) The server relies on HAL to provide the list of input devices.
If no devices become available, reconfigure HAL or disable AllowEmptyInput.
(II) Loader magic: 0xb40
(II) Module ABI versions:
X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4
X.Org Video Driver: 5.0
X.Org XInput driver : 4.0
X.Org Server Extension : 2.0
(II) Loader running on linux
(++) using VT number 7

(--) PCI:*(0:3:0:0) 1002:954f:1682:2461 ATI Technologies Inc RV710 [Radeon HD 4350] rev 0, Mem @ 0xd0
000000/268435456, 0xfdde0000/65536, I/O @ 0x0000bc00/256, BIOS @ 0x????????/131072
(II) Open ACPI successful (/var/run/acpid.socket)
(II) System resource ranges:
[0] -1 0 0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) MX[B]
[1] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B]
[2] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B]
[3] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B]
[4] -1 0 0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) MX[B]
[5] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B]
[6] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B]
[7] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B]
[8] -1 0 0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) MX[B]
[9] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B]
[10] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B]
[11] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B]
[12] -1 0 0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) MX[B]
[13] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B]
[14] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B]
[15] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B]
[16] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B]
[17] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x00000000 (0x1) IX[B]
[18] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B]
[19] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x00000000 (0x1) IX[B]
[20] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B]
[21] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x00000000 (0x1) IX[B]
[22] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B]
[23] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x00000000 (0x1) IX[B]
(II) "extmod" will be loaded by default.
(II) "dbe" will be loaded by default.
(II) "glx" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file.
(II) "record" will be loaded by default.
(II) "dri" will be loaded by default.
(II) "dri2" will be loaded by default.
(II) LoadModule: "glx"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libglx.so
(II) Module glx: vendor="FireGL - ATI Technologies Inc."
compiled for 7.4.0, module version = 1.0.0
(II) Loading extension GLX
(II) LoadModule: "extmod"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libextmod.so
(II) Module extmod: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 1.6.4, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: X.Org Server Extension
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
(II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension
(II) Loading extension XFree86-DGA
(II) Loading extension DPMS
(II) Loading extension XVideo
(II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation
(II) Loading extension X-Resource
(II) LoadModule: "dbe"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libdbe.so
(II) Module dbe: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 1.6.4, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: X.Org Server Extension
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(II) Loading extension DOUBLE-BUFFER
(II) LoadModule: "record"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//librecord.so
(II) Module record: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 1.6.4, module version = 1.13.0
Module class: X.Org Server Extension
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(II) Loading extension RECORD
(II) LoadModule: "dri"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libdri.so
(II) Module dri: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 7.4.0, module version = 1.0.0
(II) Loading sub module "fglrxdrm"
(II) LoadModule: "fglrxdrm"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/linux//libfglrxdrm.so
(II) Module fglrxdrm: vendor="FireGL - ATI Technologies Inc."
compiled for 1.4.99.906, module version = 8.67.4
(II) Loading extension XFree86-DRI
(II) LoadModule: "dri2"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libdri2.so
(II) Module dri2: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 1.6.4, module version = 1.1.0
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(II) Loading extension DRI2
(II) LoadModule: "fglrx"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//fglrx_drv.so
(II) Module fglrx: vendor="FireGL - ATI Technologies Inc."
compiled for 1.4.99.906, module version = 8.67.4
Module class: X.Org Video Driver
(II) ATI Proprietary Linux Driver Version Identifier:8.67.4
(II) ATI Proprietary Linux Driver Release Identifier: 8.671
(II) ATI Proprietary Linux Driver Build Date: Nov 4 2009 09:43:59
(II) Primary Device is: PCI 03@00:00:0
(WW) Falling back to old probe method for fglrx
(II) Loading PCS database from /etc/ati/amdpcsdb
(--) Chipset Supported AMD Graphics Processor (0x954F) found
(WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0@3:0:1) found
(II) AMD Video driver is running on a device belonging to a group targeted for this release
(II) AMD Video driver is signed
(II) resource ranges after xf86ClaimFixedResources() call:
[0] -1 0 0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) MX[B]
[1] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B]
[2] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B]
[3] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B]
[4] -1 0 0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) MX[B]
[5] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B]
[6] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B]
[7] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B]
[8] -1 0 0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) MX[B]
[9] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B]
[10] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B]
[11] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B]
[12] -1 0 0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) MX[B]
[13] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B]
[14] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B]
[15] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B]
[16] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B]
[17] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x00000000 (0x1) IX[B]
[18] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B]
[19] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x00000000 (0x1) IX[B]
[20] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B]
[21] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x00000000 (0x1) IX[B]
[22] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B]
[23] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x00000000 (0x1) IX[B]
(II) fglrx(0): pEnt->device->identifier=0x1bb31f0
(II) resource ranges after probing:
[0] -1 0 0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) MX[B]
[1] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B]
[2] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B]
[3] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B]
[4] -1 0 0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) MX[B]
[5] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B]
[6] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B]
[7] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B]
[8] -1 0 0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) MX[B]
[9] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B]
[10] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B]
[11] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B]
[12] -1 0 0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) MX[B]
[13] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B]
[14] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B]
[15] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B]
[16] 0 0 0x000a0000 - 0x000affff (0x10000) MS[B]
[17] 0 0 0x000b0000 - 0x000b7fff (0x8000) MS[B]
[18] 0 0 0x000b8000 - 0x000bffff (0x8000) MS[B]
[19] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B]
[20] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x00000000 (0x1) IX[B]
[21] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B]
[22] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x00000000 (0x1) IX[B]
[23] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B]
[24] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x00000000 (0x1) IX[B]
[25] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B]
[26] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x00000000 (0x1) IX[B]
[27] 0 0 0x000003b0 - 0x000003bb (0xc) IS[B]
[28] 0 0 0x000003c0 - 0x000003df (0x20) IS[B]
(II) Setting vga for screen 0.
(II) fglrx(0): === [atiddxPreInit] === begin
(II) Loading sub module "vgahw"
(II) LoadModule: "vgahw"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libvgahw.so
(II) Module vgahw: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 1.6.4, module version = 0.1.0
ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 5.0
(II) fglrx(0): PCI bus 3 card 0 func 0
(II) fglrx(0): Creating default Display subsection in Screen section
"Default Screen" for depth/fbbpp 24/32
(**) fglrx(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32
(II) fglrx(0): Pixel depth = 24 bits stored in 4 bytes (32 bpp pixmaps)
(==) fglrx(0): Default visual is TrueColor
(==) fglrx(0): RGB weight 888
(II) fglrx(0): Using 8 bits per RGB (8 bit DAC)
(==) fglrx(0): Gamma Correction for I is 0x06419064
(==) fglrx(0): Gamma Correction for II is 0x06419064
(==) fglrx(0): Buffer Tiling is ON
(II) Loading sub module "fglrxdrm"
(II) LoadModule: "fglrxdrm"
(II) Reloading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/linux//libfglrxdrm.so
drmDynamicMajor: found major device number 251
drmDynamicMajor: found major device number 251
drmOpenByBusid: Searching for BusID PCI:3:0:0
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/ati/card0
drmOpenDevice: open result is 9, (OK)
drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns 9
drmOpenByBusid: drmGetBusid reports PCI:3:0:0
(--) fglrx(0): Chipset: "ATI Radeon HD 4350" (Chipset = 0x954f)
(--) fglrx(0): (PciSubVendor = 0x1682, PciSubDevice = 0x2461)
(--) fglrx(0): board vendor info: third party graphics adapter - NOT original ATI
(--) fglrx(0): Linear framebuffer (phys) at 0xd0000000
(--) fglrx(0): MMIO registers at 0xfdde0000
(--) fglrx(0): I/O port at 0x0000bc00
(==) fglrx(0): ROM-BIOS at 0x000c0000
(II) fglrx(0): AC Adapter is used
(II) fglrx(0): Primary V_BIOS segment is: 0xc000
(II) Loading sub module "vbe"
(II) LoadModule: "vbe"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libvbe.so
(II) Module vbe: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 1.6.4, module version = 1.1.0
ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 5.0
(II) fglrx(0): VESA BIOS detected
(II) fglrx(0): VESA VBE Version 3.0
(II) fglrx(0): VESA VBE Total Mem: 16384 kB
(II) fglrx(0): VESA VBE OEM: ATI ATOMBIOS
(II) fglrx(0): VESA VBE OEM Software Rev: 11.16
(II) fglrx(0): VESA VBE OEM Vendor: (C) 1988-2005, ATI Technologies Inc.
(II) fglrx(0): VESA VBE OEM Product: RV710
(II) fglrx(0): VESA VBE OEM Product Rev: 01.00
(II) fglrx(0): ATI Video BIOS revision 9 or later detected
(--) fglrx(0): Video RAM: 524288 kByte, Type: DDR2
(II) fglrx(0): PCIE card detected
(--) fglrx(0): Using per-process page tables (PPPT) as GART.
(WW) fglrx(0): board is an unknown third party board, chipset is supported
(II) fglrx(0): Using adapter: 3:0.0.

[acarlstein]

This new change imposed in Ubuntu 9.10 had only provide me problems.

1) This is pushing people to buy new hardware (Microsoft tactics with they new OS).

2) Even do the version is an even number (stable), the new Ubuntu is completely unstable, using the users to be beta testes against their will (Microsoft tactic again)

3) Right now, I'm reinstalling six computers with Ubuntu 9.04 from customers that accepted my advise to change to Ubuntu. Making me look like an @$$, to the point that my other customers are going to change to XP again (even do Microsoft say to stop supporting it soon).

4) I will never buy again an computer or laptop with an ATI Video card again in my life. I'm tired of the same bull over and over again with this company.

WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU UBUNTU COMMUNITY?

Why I can't install flgrx sucessfully even if you stop "supporting it"?

You made a good step with the graphic change but then you made two step back with the bugs and the issue with the ATI

Red Hat was doing the same bull and that is why I changed to Ubuntu. How many times I have to change of distributions?

[chousho]

The problem isn't as much the Ubuntu community as it is the hardware manufacturer. In this case, ATI is responsible for not supporting F/OSS as well as they could be.

I, too, have issues as I would very much love to play Steam (HL, CS, DoD) games as well as WoW on my ATI x600xt card. However, that apparently will not happen without either: downgrading, or waiting a very long time for the open drivers to fully support 3D rendering on my card.

If anybody has a solution to the above, let now know! Until then I've learned to only support those companies that support your own choices (nVidia from now on).

[Yellow Pasque]

In this case, ATI is responsible for not supporting F/OSS as well as they could be.

If you keep up with development efforts and git branches, ATI is supporting F/OSS very well. They finally have an in-kernel memory manager, and just recently, they cleared the last major hurdle (GLSL) for OpenGL 2.x support in the r600/r700 mesa driver.

[shane2peru]

I would have to say that ATI is not keeping up with par! My current laptop is the first and last I will ever own with ATI graphics cards. I have the ATI Radeon HD 3100 graphics card, and it has been absolutely nothing but trouble with Linux. I have installed about 6 or 7 distro's looking for answers, and absolutely none of them works with it! It over heats and over heats, continually runs hot. If I wasn't a Linux guy, I would have gone back to Windows by now, however my disdain for them is very strong. ATI should be able to put out drivers for their own product (even proprietary drivers) and they are not. I think it was x.9.9 version that I installed and it didn't work at all of their proprietary driver. I have started keeping the old ones as a fall back, because even their new ones have been unreliable. I have installed proprietary drivers on most of those distros I have installed to, after giving the first install a go for a while. Really sad. So my only option is to believe that ATI is not keeping up like it should, and I'm absolutely through with their products, and would steer anyone away from them!

Shane

[Yellow Pasque]

Your opinion of ATI is based off their terrible proprietary driver, while ATI is concentrating their development efforts on the F/OSS drivers. A lot of progress has been made recently there, but unfotunately, most end-users won't see it until much later when it shows up in distros, unless they go hunting for later drivers.

If you're willling to try open-source drivers, a useful option might be

Option "ForceLowPowerMode" "boolean"
Enable a static low power mode. This can help reduce heat and increase battery life by reducing power usage at the expense of performance. The default is off.

[shane2peru]

If you have the link for the F/OSS drivers by all means post it. I'm certainly not limiting myself to the proprietary drivers. They do have a steady stream of them coming out, unfortunately they are not usable. I'm currently running F/OSS driver, and cannot do any labor intense processes, even watching a video will overheat it. Last night I was tinkering with it some more and installed the proprietary drivers, and they were worse, ran about 98 degrees C where as the F/OSS drivers (in the 9.10 normal repos) runs at about 88 degrees C. Neither is acceptable IMHO. That is only surfing the web, not really anything else. Oh, and it is impossible to run the laptop without some sort of lifting board, laptop thing. If it is set on the table it will overheat very quickly. Fans are running and vents are clear, it is a driver thing.

Shane

PSS:

Option "ForceLowPowerMode" "boolean"
Enable a static low power mode. This can help reduce heat and increase battery life by reducing power usage at the expense of performance. The default is off.

Where do I set this?

[SeePU]

Your opinion of ATI is based off their terrible proprietary driver, while ATI is concentrating their development efforts on the F/OSS drivers. A lot of progress has been made recently there, but unfotunately, most end-users won't see it until much later when it shows up in distros, unless they go hunting for later drivers.

If you're willling to try open-source drivers, a useful option might be

I disagree with you. Well, in part. I think it's a combination of something missing or needing to be added. Development of the required code stalled somewhere.

Why do I think that? Because I have 3D working with the open source ati driver in Mandriva 2010 and Fedora 12. I've tried different distros because I was curious whether the experience would be the same. I cannot boot Ubuntu 9.10 and use the desktop normally. Starting/clicking Firefox results in a locked laptop system. Firefox doesn't even start. The cursor 'wheel' stops spinning and everything freezes.

There are variations of this sort of problem scattered across the forum and very similar reports on Launchpad. There is no xorg.conf file with the latest 9.10 Karmic so you have to edit your own file and add some content to avoid the crash. I've tried but to no avail. I bought a newer, bigger laptop disk drive so I wanted to install a recently released distro. I'm familiar with Kubuntu and Ubuntu on my desktop but I'm going to abandon the *buntus for now so I'll install something else on my laptop. This is not a slight or anything. I've experimented quite a bit trying to solve this issue as I would gladly post a solution and wanted to. Unfortunately, I could not discover it. I have a few more things to try before I finally give up.

I just think that there is some code missing that maybe both ATI and Ubuntu left out or maybe Ubuntu didn't grab what was needed and put it in the release. Newer ATI hardware might work okay with the open source driver. I'm not sure but older cards such as 9550 and older seem to result in crashes. Well, for my hardware, it does.

Anyway, just my two cents for what it is worth. I think if you have older ATI hardware such as 9700 and older, try the open source driver first without any configuration. If 3D effects being enabled results in a crash, then you have to edit xorg.conf and if you're like me, you need to read and research what should go there.